Понеже Ройтер ме подкукороса по телефона откриваме нова тема с предположително достатъчно очевадно заглавие. Всеки да си избере флот и да си го направи. Аз по подразбиране ще съчиня флота на империята (а руснаците ако не са толкова загуени и си поръчат при мене вместо при жабарите и за тях). За да има достоверност се налагат следните ограничения: Без дредноутни изгъзици- тогава е нямало такива, втори калибър максимум 152 мм, задвижване: парни машини, ако се сетя нещо ще добавя.
Setih се още едно ограничение: като гориво само въглища. А за да раздвижим темат ето едно корабче от мене: Броненосец втори клас за служба в колониите:
Centaur, UK 2-th class BB laid down 1904
Displacement:
8 933 t light; 9 380 t standard; 10 312 t normal; 11 058 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
381.35 ft / 377.30 ft x 72.18 ft x 20.39 ft (normal load)
116.23 m / 115.00 m x 22.00 m x 6.22 m
Armament:
4 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (2x2 guns), 500.00lbs / 226.80kg shells, 1904 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
14 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1904 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships, 8 raised mounts - superfiring
6 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 2 738 lbs / 1 242 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 272.31 ft / 83.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 101.71 ft / 31.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
3.28 ft / 1.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 3.94" / 100 mm 272.31 ft / 83.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 111 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 5.91" / 150 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 3.94" / 100 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18 251 ihp / 13 615 Kw = 20.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 678 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
511 - 665
Cost:
£0.976 million / $3.904 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 342 tons, 3.3 %
Armour: 2 717 tons, 26.4 %
- Belts: 1 482 tons, 14.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 548 tons, 5.3 %
- Armour Deck: 608 tons, 5.9 %
- Conning Tower: 80 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 2 684 tons, 26.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 189 tons, 30.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 380 tons, 13.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10 021 lbs / 4 545 Kg = 20.0 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.53
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.650
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.42 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Forecastle (40 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)
- Mid (80 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Stern: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138.9 %
Waterplane Area: 20 862 Square feet or 1 938 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 525 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.53
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Резюме:
По-късно през деня може да има ескадрен броненосец, два вида крайцери, миноноски и разна друга дребна сволоч.
А и една подсказка като гледам проекта: 150 снаряда за главният калибър са твърде много за тогава.
Това естаственно е примерен проект, истинският флот ще бъде предствен по-късно.
Още нещо се сетих: предвид че трябва да са готови за войната от 1904-5 то корабите трябва да са заложени най-късно 1902 за основните класове, и 1903 за миноносците. Това го казвам да имате предвид като правите проектите и си избирате прототипи.
Setih се още едно ограничение: като гориво само въглища. А за да раздвижим темат ето едно корабче от мене: Броненосец втори клас за служба в колониите:
Centaur, UK 2-th class BB laid down 1904
Displacement:
8 933 t light; 9 380 t standard; 10 312 t normal; 11 058 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
381.35 ft / 377.30 ft x 72.18 ft x 20.39 ft (normal load)
116.23 m / 115.00 m x 22.00 m x 6.22 m
Armament:
4 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (2x2 guns), 500.00lbs / 226.80kg shells, 1904 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
14 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1904 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships, 8 raised mounts - superfiring
6 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
Weight of broadside 2 738 lbs / 1 242 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 272.31 ft / 83.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 101.71 ft / 31.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
3.28 ft / 1.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 3.94" / 100 mm 272.31 ft / 83.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 111 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 5.91" / 150 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 3.94" / 100 mm - -
- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18 251 ihp / 13 615 Kw = 20.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 678 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
511 - 665
Cost:
£0.976 million / $3.904 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 342 tons, 3.3 %
Armour: 2 717 tons, 26.4 %
- Belts: 1 482 tons, 14.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 548 tons, 5.3 %
- Armour Deck: 608 tons, 5.9 %
- Conning Tower: 80 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 2 684 tons, 26.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 189 tons, 30.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 380 tons, 13.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10 021 lbs / 4 545 Kg = 20.0 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.53
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.650
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.42 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Forecastle (40 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)
- Mid (80 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Stern: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138.9 %
Waterplane Area: 20 862 Square feet or 1 938 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 525 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.53
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Резюме:
Примерен броненосец от втори клас
А и една подсказка като гледам проекта: 150 снаряда за главният калибър са твърде много за тогава.
Това естаственно е примерен проект, истинският флот ще бъде предствен по-късно.
Още нещо се сетих: предвид че трябва да са готови за войната от 1904-5 то корабите трябва да са заложени най-късно 1902 за основните класове, и 1903 за миноносците. Това го казвам да имате предвид като правите проектите и си избирате прототипи.
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