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**De Ruyeter** · 22-04-2005, 10:47

колко ме траверсната преграда, че нещо не я виждам?

**Gaden Gogi** · 25-04-2005, 10:43

Програмата не предлага такова нещо, предположително колкото пояса

**Gaden Gogi** · 26-04-2005, 12:19

Ето и моят линкор, попяснения: отговаря на договорните ограничения, използуваме стрите оръдия и кули от нарязаните линкори, така спестяваме 1/3 от цената, ползуваме обводи на Венгард, машини нормални като на оригиналният КГ 5, турбо електроход, бронятя: бордовата е двуслийна с разстояние между плочите, 230+70 мм, в ПТЗ-то се иползува ебонит мус. По мои сметки цената би трябвало да е от порядъка на 3.7-4 млн паунда, ако и програмката да смятка друго, аз се базирам на цените на реалните КГ 5 +корекция за по-малко водоизместване и готови оръдия.
KG 5, UK BB laid down 1935
Displacement:

33 424 t light; 35 180 t standard; 40 280 t normal; 44 360 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

722.01 ft / 688.98 ft x 91.86 ft (Bulges 111.55 ft) x 31.63 ft (normal load)

220.07 m / 210.00 m x 28.00 m (Bulges 34.00 m) x 9.64 m

Armament:

8 - 13.50" / 343 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1 231.26lbs / 558.49kg shells, 1913 Model

Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)

on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring

24 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (12x2 guns), 45.20lbs / 20.50kg shells, 1935 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on side, all amidships

72 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (12x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1935 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 11 075 lbs / 5 024 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 354.33 ft / 108.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m

Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 295.28 ft / 90.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m

39.37 ft / 12.00 m Unarmoured ends

Upper: 1.97" / 50 mm 354.33 ft / 108.00 m 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

Main Belt covers 79 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:

1.97" / 50 mm 557.74 ft / 170.00 m 31.63 ft / 9.64 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 7.09" / 180 mm 9.84" / 250 mm

2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.57" / 40 mm

3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 7.09" / 180 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Electric motors, 2 shafts, 135 000 shp / 100 710 Kw = 30.00 kts

Range 10 000nm at 20.00 kts (Bunkerage = 9 180 tons)

Complement:

1 421 - 1 848

Cost:

£14.609 million / $58.438 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 1 384 tons, 3.4 %

Armour: 13 813 tons, 34.3 %

- Belts: 3 380 tons, 8.4 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 1 285 tons, 3.2 %

- Armament: 2 744 tons, 6.8 %

- Armour Deck: 6 205 tons, 15.4 %

- Conning Tower: 199 tons, 0.5 %

Machinery: 3 835 tons, 9.5 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 14 391 tons, 35.7 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6 856 tons, 17.0 %

Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

52 952 lbs / 24 018 Kg = 43.0 x 13.5 " / 343 mm shells or 8.4 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.01

Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m

Roll period: 22.2 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.580

Length to Beam Ratio: 6.18 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 30.91 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 39.37 ft / 12.00 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 36.09 ft / 11.00 m (32.81 ft / 10.00 m aft of break)

- Mid (50 %): 29.53 ft / 9.00 m (26.25 ft / 8.00 m aft of break)

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

- Stern: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

- Average freeboard: 29.95 ft / 9.13 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.7 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 180.9 %

Waterplane Area: 47 330 Square feet or 4 397 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 124 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 189 lbs/sq ft or 925 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.95

- Longitudinal: 2.00

- Overall: 1.02

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

**Gaden Gogi** · 26-04-2005, 13:56

А ето го и крайцерът на империята, подобрен Белфаст, само без самолети и с по-добра компановка на машините, които са турбоелектроходни и са съвместими с тези на Линкора, ама с по-малко генератори, сега не се вместваме точно в ограниченията ама за 700 т няма да дребнеем, и без това ще сме най честни.
Ето го и корабът:
Black Prince, UK Cruiser laid down 1938

Displacement:

10 224 t light; 10 744 t standard; 13 531 t normal; 15 761 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

570.56 ft / 551.18 ft x 57.41 ft (Bulges 61.35 ft) x 26.57 ft (normal load)

173.91 m / 168.00 m x 17.50 m (Bulges 18.70 m) x 8.10 m

Armament:

12 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns (4x3 guns), 116.85lbs / 53.00kg shells, 1938 Model

Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)

on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring

12 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (6x2 guns), 45.20lbs / 20.50kg shells, 1938 Model

Dual purpose guns in Coles/Ericsson turrets

on side, all amidships

48 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (8x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1938 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts

40 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (20x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1938 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 2 048 lbs / 929 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 200

10 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 383.86 ft / 117.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m

Ends: 0.24" / 6 mm 19.69 ft / 6.00 m 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

147.64 ft / 45.00 m Unarmoured ends

Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:

1.57" / 40 mm 377.30 ft / 115.00 m 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 3.15" / 80 mm 3.94" / 100 mm

2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm

3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

4th: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.76" / 70 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Electric motors, 2 shafts, 81 374 shp / 60 705 Kw = 31.00 kts

Range 14 000nm at 18.00 kts (Bunkerage = 5 017 tons)

Complement:

626 - 815

Cost:

£4.918 million / $19.674 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 241 tons, 1.8 %

Armour: 3 073 tons, 22.7 %

- Belts: 742 tons, 5.5 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 505 tons, 3.7 %

- Armament: 622 tons, 4.6 %

- Armour Deck: 1 147 tons, 8.5 %

- Conning Tower: 58 tons, 0.4 %

Machinery: 2 228 tons, 16.5 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 681 tons, 34.6 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 307 tons, 24.4 %

Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

12 982 lbs / 5 888 Kg = 121.2 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03

Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m

Roll period: 17.0 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 87 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.77

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.41

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has rise forward of midbreak

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.527

Length to Beam Ratio: 8.98 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 26.93 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 27.89 ft / 8.50 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

- Mid (60 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m (21.33 ft / 6.50 m aft of break)

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m

- Stern: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m

- Average freeboard: 23.75 ft / 7.24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.6 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 125.0 %

Waterplane Area: 22 493 Square feet or 2 090 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 143 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 107 lbs/sq ft or 524 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.90

- Longitudinal: 2.62

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

А ето и флотският ни крайцер, много красива машинка:
Dido, UK AA Cruiser laid down 1939

Displacement:

6 776 t light; 7 093 t standard; 8 607 t normal; 9 819 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

536.00 ft / 508.53 ft x 59.71 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)

163.37 m / 155.00 m x 18.20 m x 6.00 m

Armament:

12 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (6x2 guns), 50.71lbs / 23.00kg shells, 1939 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on centreline ends, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts - superfiring

36 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (6x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1939 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, all amidships

40 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (20x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1939 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 689 lbs / 312 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 350

10 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 2.76" / 70 mm 377.30 ft / 115.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m

Ends: Unarmoured

Main Belt covers 114 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:

1.57" / 40 mm 377.30 ft / 115.00 m 18.37 ft / 5.60 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm

2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.17" / 55 mm, Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Electric motors, 2 shafts, 62 860 shp / 46 894 Kw = 31.00 kts

Range 10 000nm at 18.00 kts (Bunkerage = 2 726 tons)

Complement:

446 - 580

Cost:

£3.146 million / $12.582 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 78 tons, 0.9 %

Armour: 1 883 tons, 21.9 %

- Belts: 563 tons, 6.5 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 404 tons, 4.7 %

- Armament: 45 tons, 0.5 %

- Armour Deck: 846 tons, 9.8 %

- Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0.3 %

Machinery: 1 701 tons, 19.8 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 114 tons, 36.2 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 831 tons, 21.3 %

Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

10 162 lbs / 4 609 Kg = 224.8 x 4.5 " / 114 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25

Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m

Roll period: 13.5 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.35

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has raised forecastle

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.504

Length to Beam Ratio: 8.52 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 26.06 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 8.20 ft / 2.50 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Forecastle (10 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m (24.61 ft / 7.50 m aft of break)

- Mid (50 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Quarterdeck (12 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Average freeboard: 22.47 ft / 6.85 m

Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.0 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157.6 %

Waterplane Area: 21 118 Square feet or 1 962 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 146 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 88 lbs/sq ft or 430 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.90

- Longitudinal: 2.33

- Overall: 0.99

Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

**Gaden Gogi** · 27-04-2005, 17:16

Ухааа, с милион и един зора успях да скалъшя и есминеца, ама голямо надлъгване да не потъне или да не излезне 5К тонен, но съм голям майстор, дори ми се връзва в договорните ограничения. Чакам и Ройтер да се включи, държа да подчертая че да докарата есминец до добра мореходност е страшно трудно. При това аз си имам и местно брониране и голяма далечина, абе майсторът си е майстор, даже този есминец е по-добра артилерийска платформа от коритото Бисмарк.

Tribal, UK DD laid down 1940

Displacement:

1 767 t light; 1 839 t standard; 2 181 t normal; 2 454 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

430.17 ft / 410.11 ft x 32.81 ft x 11.48 ft (normal load)

131.12 m / 125.00 m x 10.00 m x 3.50 m

Armament:

4 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (2x2 guns), 50.71lbs / 23.00kg shells, 1940 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring

12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1940 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on centreline, all aft, 1 raised mount - superfiring

16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1940 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 230 lbs / 104 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 200

5 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Conning tower: 1.57" / 40 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Geared drive, 2 shafts, 41 639 shp / 31 062 Kw = 34.00 kts

Range 5 000nm at 18.00 kts (Bunkerage = 616 tons)

Complement:

159 - 207

Cost:

£1.377 million / $5.509 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 26 tons, 1.2 %

Armour: 19 tons, 0.9 %

- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 13 tons, 0.6 %

- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Conning Tower: 6 tons, 0.3 %

Machinery: 1 042 tons, 47.8 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 681 tons, 31.2 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 414 tons, 19.0 %

Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

775 lbs / 352 Kg = 17.2 x 4.5 " / 114 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19

Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m

Roll period: 12.1 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 91 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.30

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has rise forward of midbreak

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.494

Length to Beam Ratio: 12.50 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 22.75 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m

- Forecastle (15 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m

- Mid (75 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m (11.48 ft / 3.50 m aft of break)

- Quarterdeck (10 %): 11.48 ft / 3.50 m

- Stern: 11.48 ft / 3.50 m

- Average freeboard: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m

Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 164.1 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138.3 %

Waterplane Area: 9 271 Square feet or 861 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 89 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 35 lbs/sq ft or 169 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.51

- Longitudinal: 1.96

- Overall: 0.58

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

А ето и един 45 К линкор, също договорен, ако нещо има проблем с 343 мм оръдия, за съжаление трябваше да се откажа от 25% от DP оръдията, амам иначе корпусът в зададеното водоизместване излизаше опасно слаб

Drednouth, UK BB laid down 1942

Displacement:

43 481 t light; 45 589 t standard; 51 193 t normal; 55 675 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

869.12 ft / 826.77 ft x 108.27 ft (Bulges 121.39 ft) x 30.41 ft (normal load)

264.91 m / 252.00 m x 33.00 m (Bulges 37.00 m) x 9.27 m

Armament:

8 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (2x4 guns), 1 372.00lbs / 622.33kg shells, 1942 Model

Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)

on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring

30 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (15x2 guns), 45.20lbs / 20.50kg shells, 1942 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on side, all amidships, 6 raised mounts - superfiring

120 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (20x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1942 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 12 566 lbs / 5 700 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 13.0" / 330 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 16.40 ft / 5.00 m

Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 328.08 ft / 100.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m

154.20 ft / 47.00 m Unarmoured ends

Upper: 0.12" / 3 mm 0.00 ft / 0.00 m 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

Main Belt covers 64 % of normal length

Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:

2.36" / 60 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 12.6" / 320 mm

2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm

3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 7.09" / 180 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,

Electric motors, 4 shafts, 149 491 shp / 111 520 Kw = 30.00 kts

Range 10 000nm at 20.00 kts (Bunkerage = 10 086 tons)

Complement:

1 701 - 2 212

Cost:

£21.560 million / $86.241 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 1 571 tons, 3.1 %

Armour: 16 342 tons, 31.9 %

- Belts: 3 787 tons, 7.4 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 790 tons, 1.5 %

- Armament: 2 696 tons, 5.3 %

- Armour Deck: 8 835 tons, 17.3 %

- Conning Tower: 234 tons, 0.5 %

Machinery: 3 905 tons, 7.6 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 19 663 tons, 38.4 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7 712 tons, 15.1 %

Miscellaneous weights: 2 000 tons, 3.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

89 016 lbs / 40 377 Kg = 64.9 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 14.8 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20

Metacentric height 7.9 ft / 2.4 m

Roll period: 18.1 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.38

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.587

Length to Beam Ratio: 6.81 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 33.54 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 42.65 ft / 13.00 m

- Forecastle (35 %): 39.37 ft / 12.00 m (36.09 ft / 11.00 m aft of break)

- Mid (50 %): 32.81 ft / 10.00 m (26.25 ft / 8.00 m aft of break)

- Quarterdeck (20 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

- Stern: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

- Average freeboard: 32.53 ft / 9.92 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 66.0 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 218.7 %

Waterplane Area: 67 389 Square feet or 6 261 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 132 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 198 lbs/sq ft or 965 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.96

- Longitudinal: 1.69

- Overall: 1.01

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Тези мешаните маси дето фигурират, 2 К тона са за противоосколочна защита. абе супер пупер кораб, 14 торпеда може да изтрае

**Gaden Gogi** · 19-05-2005, 13:14

Комюнике:
След дълъг размисъл Първият Морски Лорд взе волево решение и постанов: от сега на татък крайцерската скорост на целият Имперски флот се фиксира на 15 възела, в борба за икономия и строго придържане към подписаните договори всички кораби бяха преконструирани .

Tribal, UK DD laid down 1940

Displacement:

1 714 t light; 1 800 t standard; 2 016 t normal; 2 188 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

417.89 ft / 393.70 ft x 36.09 ft x 10.50 ft (normal load)

127.37 m / 120.00 m x 11.00 m x 3.20 m

Armament:

4 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (2x2 guns), 50.71lbs / 23.00kg shells, 1940 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring

12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1940 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on centreline, all aft, 1 raised mount - superfiring

8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1940 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1940 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 246 lbs / 111 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 300

10 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Conning tower: 1.57" / 40 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Geared drive, 2 shafts, 45 425 shp / 33 887 Kw = 35.00 kts

Range 5 000nm at 15.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 388 tons

Complement:

149 - 195

Cost:

£1.363 million / $5.453 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 28 tons, 1.4 %

Armour: 19 tons, 0.9 %

- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 13 tons, 0.7 %

- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0.3 %

Machinery: 1 027 tons, 50.9 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 641 tons, 31.8 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 302 tons, 15.0 %

Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

644 lbs / 292 Kg = 14.3 x 4.5 " / 114 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29

Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m

Roll period: 11.6 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.28

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has rise forward of midbreak, raised quarterdeck

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.473

Length to Beam Ratio: 10.91 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 22.56 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 67 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Forecastle (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Mid (75 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m (13.12 ft / 4.00 m aft of break)

- Quarterdeck (10 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m (13.12 ft / 4.00 m before break)

- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m

- Average freeboard: 18.41 ft / 5.61 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 176.5 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.3 %

Waterplane Area: 9 604 Square feet or 892 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 154 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.42

- Longitudinal: 2.46

- Overall: 0.50

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped

Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

**Gaden Gogi** · 27-05-2005, 09:11

В тежките години след ПСВ Адмиралтейството реши да заработо малко и създаде тежък крайцер според изискванията на Италианският флот, Главната единица от серията ще бъде построена в кралството а следващита с наша техническа помощ в Италия.
Крайцерът IMHO отговаря идеална на изискванията на клиента: огрома огнева мощ, много добра защита и висока скорост. Всички останали характеристики са съобразени с усложията на бъдещият ТВД:
Zara, UK CA laid down 1939 (Engine 1943)

Displacement:

10 643 t light; 11 042 t standard; 11 392 t normal; 11 673 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

656.67 ft / 637.14 ft x 62.34 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)

200.15 m / 194.20 m x 19.00 m x 6.00 m

Armament:

12 - 7.99" / 203 mm guns (4x3 guns), 255.24lbs / 115.78kg shells, 1939 Model

Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)

on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring

10 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm guns in single mounts, 22.24lbs / 10.09kg shells, 1939 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts

on side, all amidships

20 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (10x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1939 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1939 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 3 321 lbs / 1 506 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 90

12 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 4.33" / 110 mm 452.76 ft / 138.00 m 6.56 ft / 2.00 m

Ends: Unarmoured

Main Belt covers 109 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 3.15" / 80 mm

2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Geared drive, 4 shafts, 110 934 shp / 82 757 Kw = 35.00 kts

Range 3 000nm at 14.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 631 tons

Complement:

550 - 716

Cost:

£6.530 million / $26.120 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 415 tons, 3.6 %

Armour: 2 042 tons, 17.9 %

- Belts: 528 tons, 4.6 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 460 tons, 4.0 %

- Armour Deck: 1 012 tons, 8.9 %

- Conning Tower: 43 tons, 0.4 %

Machinery: 2 865 tons, 25.1 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 321 tons, 46.7 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 749 tons, 6.6 %

Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

13 010 lbs / 5 901 Kg = 51.0 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20

Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m

Roll period: 14.1 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 36 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.69

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.71

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has rise forward of midbreak

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.510

Length to Beam Ratio: 10.22 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 28.72 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 36

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 35.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 27.89 ft / 8.50 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m

- Mid (50 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m (19.69 ft / 6.00 m aft of break)

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Average freeboard: 21.92 ft / 6.68 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.8 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 161.5 %

Waterplane Area: 27 778 Square feet or 2 581 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 589 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.95

- Longitudinal: 1.49

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Ако има замечатки казвайте.

А ето и нашият крайцер, призван да брани интересите на Империята. Уточнения относно броневата защита: поясът е двуслоен, външна плоча 100 и вътрешна от 40, както на Кондотиерите, външният е наклонен под 15 градуса. Имам и 16 оръдеен вариант но предпочетох супер-дуперската защита и мнооооооого силното ПВО, бих казал на нивото или дори по-добро ото това на US линкор, още повече че с период на клатене 15 и нещо секунди съм мноого добра артилерийска платформа. Насладетесе:
Belfast, UK CA laid down 1938

Displacement:

10 215 t light; 10 661 t standard; 12 197 t normal; 13 427 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

660.38 ft / 636.98 ft x 62.34 ft (Bulges 68.90 ft) x 19.46 ft (normal load)

201.28 m / 194.15 m x 19.00 m (Bulges 21.00 m) x 5.93 m

Armament:

12 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns (3x4 guns), 121.25lbs / 55.00kg shells, 1938 Model

Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)

on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring

12 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (4x3 guns), 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1938 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts

on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring

42 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (7x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1938 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

40 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (20x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1938 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 2 208 lbs / 1 002 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 150

10 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 5.51" / 140 mm 288.71 ft / 88.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m

Ends: 1.18" / 30 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m

3.77 ft / 1.15 m Unarmoured ends

Upper: 1.57" / 40 mm 288.71 ft / 88.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m

Main Belt covers 70 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 3.94" / 100 mm

2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

4th: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.76" / 70 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Electric motors, 2 shafts, 72 114 shp / 53 797 Kw = 31.00 kts

Range 12 000nm at 15.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 2 766 tons

Complement:

579 - 754

Cost:

£4.710 million / $18.839 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 240 tons, 2.0 %

Armour: 3 094 tons, 25.4 %

- Belts: 1 266 tons, 10.4 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 357 tons, 2.9 %

- Armour Deck: 1 403 tons, 11.5 %

- Conning Tower: 67 tons, 0.6 %

Machinery: 1 975 tons, 16.2 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 907 tons, 40.2 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 982 tons, 16.3 %

Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

22 830 lbs / 10 356 Kg = 213.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21

Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m

Roll period: 15.4 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.35

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has raised forecastle

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.500

Length to Beam Ratio: 9.25 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 28.98 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 27.89 ft / 8.50 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m (24.61 ft / 7.50 m aft of break)

- Mid (50 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Average freeboard: 21.87 ft / 6.67 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69.0 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155.8 %

Waterplane Area: 27 512 Square feet or 2 556 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 537 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.97

- Longitudinal: 1.38

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

**Gaden Gogi** · 27-05-2005, 10:57

А ето и Линкорът който Сме построили за Италия:

Roma, UK BB laid down 1940 (Engine 1944)

Displacement:

50 789 t light; 53 104 t standard; 54 793 t normal; 56 145 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

894.20 ft / 869.42 ft x 104.99 ft (Bulges 121.39 ft) x 34.28 ft (normal load)

272.55 m / 265.00 m x 32.00 m (Bulges 37.00 m) x 10.45 m

Armament:

12 - 15.98" / 406 mm guns (3x4 guns), 2 204.62lbs / 1 000.00kg shells, 1940 Model

Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)

on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft - superfiring

28 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm guns (14x2 guns), 22.24lbs / 10.09kg shells, 1940 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on side, all amidships

60 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (30x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1940 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 27 171 lbs / 12 325 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 80

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 528.22 ft / 161.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m

Ends: Unarmoured

Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:

2.36" / 60 mm 528.22 ft / 161.00 m 26.25 ft / 8.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 7.87" / 200 mm 13.8" / 350 mm

2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 7.87" / 200 mm, Conning tower: 13.78" / 350 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 213 019 shp / 158 912 Kw = 33.00 kts

Range 5 000nm at 15.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 3 041 tons

Complement:

1 789 - 2 327

Cost:

£31.123 million / $124.493 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 3 152 tons, 5.8 %

Armour: 18 956 tons, 34.6 %

- Belts: 4 102 tons, 7.5 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 1 212 tons, 2.2 %

- Armament: 3 737 tons, 6.8 %

- Armour Deck: 9 478 tons, 17.3 %

- Conning Tower: 428 tons, 0.8 %

Machinery: 5 440 tons, 9.9 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 23 204 tons, 42.3 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 004 tons, 7.3 %

Miscellaneous weights: 37 tons, 0.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

70 797 lbs / 32 113 Kg = 34.7 x 16.0 " / 406 mm shells or 10.7 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14

Metacentric height 6.9 ft / 2.1 m

Roll period: 19.5 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.60

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has low quarterdeck

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.530

Length to Beam Ratio: 7.16 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 34.47 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 29.53 ft / 9.00 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 29.53 ft / 9.00 m

- Mid (50 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m (22.97 ft / 7.00 m before break)

- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Average freeboard: 24.77 ft / 7.55 m

Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.2 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 169.6 %

Waterplane Area: 65 062 Square feet or 6 044 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 242 lbs/sq ft or 1 182 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.97

- Longitudinal: 1.30

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

**Gaden Gogi** · 28-05-2005, 09:11

A nie си направихме шлюп с който да браним конвоите от разни зловредности, такива като преработени от граждански самолети хвърчила и у-ботове, замечатка: торпедните апарати са за противолодъчни торпеда, а допълнителната маса от 300 тона е за други противолодъчни неща.

Rose, UK ASS laid down 1940

Displacement:

1 524 t light; 1 627 t standard; 2 014 t normal; 2 324 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

266.08 ft / 246.06 ft x 42.65 ft x 16.40 ft (normal load)

81.10 m / 75.00 m x 13.00 m x 5.00 m

Armament:

8 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (4x2 guns), 45.20lbs / 20.50kg shells, 1940 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts

on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring

12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1940 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, all amidships

12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1940 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts

24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (12x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1940 Model

Breech loading guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 414 lbs / 188 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 250

6 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -

2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Conning tower: 1.57" / 40 mm

Machinery:

Diesel Internal combustion generators,

Electric motors, 2 shafts, 18 287 shp / 13 642 Kw = 25.00 kts

Range 8 000nm at 15.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 697 tons

Complement:

149 - 195

Cost:

£0.992 million / $3.967 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 52 tons, 2.6 %

Armour: 31 tons, 1.5 %

- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 26 tons, 1.3 %

- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0.3 %

Machinery: 489 tons, 24.3 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 652 tons, 32.4 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 490 tons, 24.3 %

Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 14.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

1 859 lbs / 843 Kg = 41.1 x 4.5 " / 114 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.01

Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m

Roll period: 12.2 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.71

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.59

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has rise forward of midbreak

Block coefficient: 0.507

Length to Beam Ratio: 7.14 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 15.69 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 35.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 3.94 ft / 1.20 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Mid (70 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m

- Stern: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m

- Average freeboard: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116.3 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 117.1 %

Waterplane Area: 7 037 Square feet or 654 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 44 lbs/sq ft or 213 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.60

- Longitudinal: 10.10

- Overall: 0.79

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped

Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

**De Ruyeter** · 28-05-2005, 16:20

Харесват ми италианските кораби, ама много мокри, крайцера особено...И ПВО-то му е слабо.Да беше сложил по-малко 203мм оръдия, например 10, пък повече тежки зенитки.Иначе с тая лоша мореходност и Средиземно море ще му се види Тихи океан.Най-добър разбира се е - бих казъл върха на сладоледа е тежко-лекия крайцер със 152мм оръдия на Великобритания - Белфаст

**Gaden Gogi** · 28-05-2005, 21:27

Ами те точно затова са италиански, защото са супер въоръжени, не мореходни и с малък радиус.

А Имперската машина е супер-пупер, даже съм сложих много тежки снаряди 55 и 25 кила вместо предлаганите по дафаут 45 и 20, с това проектът нарства забележимо помаса, ама ние искаме да сме честни, освен това ако някой не е забелязал DP калибърът е в диаметрална плоскост и имам 12 оръдия в брдов залп, вместо 10 на американските линкори. имам си и огромна далечина и страхотна мореходност. Страшна бронева защита, пояс по почти цялата дължина на корпуса, казематен пояс до горната палуба, изобщо :imperial: на моретата.
За тези които искат да си правят самолетоносачи съм приготвил екселска табличка с чиято помощ се смята допълнителното тегло което трябва да се добави в графата misc. и да представлява самолетите и оборудването за тях, тествал съм я и доста сносно се получава, за съжаление не успях да напъхам повече от 30 и няколко самолета в самолетоносач преправен от крайцерски корпус.
Та който иска въпросната таблица да прати едно ЛС.
А трябва да добавя че самички ще трябва да си въведете данните за самолетите които смятате да ползувате, нужни с МАСА ПРАЗЕН, МАКСсимална излетна, и площ на крилете....май.

**Gaden Gogi** · 30-05-2005, 17:43

А за моят крайцер, явно на никого не му прави впечатление че DP е в тройни кули, нещо невиждано. Та понеже никой не забелязва и не пита аз как да ви обясня конструцията? Освен това и главният калибър е в 4-ворни. Ама за всичко си имам обяснения, дори исторически предпоставки и разработки.

**Gaden Gogi** · 31-05-2005, 12:09

А ето и нашия лек самолетоносач, на базата на корпус на Белфаст, сложили сме були че да не се капичне, уж ще го минем за 10К тонен и ще си строим колкото си искаме, даже може да слъжем и да заложим самолетоносачи а при зор да ги достроим като крайцери и да надхвърлим лимита по договорите

Сега за авиационната група:
brand TF.Mk.V-12 бр;5 полета

Seafang F.Mk.32-24 бр.; 5 полета

AS.39 Fleet Shadower-5 бр; 10 полета
общо 41 самолета, не че не може да се прекомпанова, но това е стандартното авиокрило, способно да решава всички поставени пред този тип кораб задачи
Eagle, UK Light Carrier laid down 1938
Displacement:

11 497 t light; 11 844 t standard; 13 468 t normal; 14 767 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

666.09 ft / 636.98 ft x 62.34 ft (Bulges 72.18 ft) x 20.51 ft (normal load)

203.02 m / 194.15 m x 19.00 m (Bulges 22.00 m) x 6.25 m

Armament:

12 - 4.49" / 114 mm guns (6x2 guns), 45.20lbs / 20.50kg shells, 1938 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on side ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring

42 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (7x6 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1938 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts

40 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (20x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1938 Model

Machine guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread

Weight of broadside 634 lbs / 288 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 354.33 ft / 108.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m

Ends: Unarmoured

Main Belt covers 86 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.18" / 30 mm

2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Electric motors, 2 shafts, 76 640 shp / 57 173 Kw = 31.00 kts

Range 12 000nm at 15.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 2 923 tons

Complement:

624 - 812

Cost:

£4.299 million / $17.198 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 79 tons, 0.6 %

Armour: 1 317 tons, 9.8 %

- Belts: 234 tons, 1.7 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 43 tons, 0.3 %

- Armour Deck: 1 002 tons, 7.4 %

- Conning Tower: 38 tons, 0.3 %

Machinery: 2 099 tons, 15.6 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 641 tons, 34.5 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 971 tons, 14.6 %

Miscellaneous weights: 3 362 tons, 25.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

19 945 lbs / 9 047 Kg = 441.2 x 4.5 " / 114 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11

Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m

Roll period: 17.5 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.50

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.500

Length to Beam Ratio: 8.83 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 29.09 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 40.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Mid (50 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Stern: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Average freeboard: 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 83.0 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 192.9 %

Waterplane Area: 27 512 Square feet or 2 556 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 142 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 99 lbs/sq ft or 483 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.95

- Longitudinal: 1.50

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Ето примерна група за началото на войната:
AS.39 Fleet Shadower-5 бр; 10 полета (принципно гориво и боезапас слагам за 5 полета и ще оказвам сам ако има разлики, както в случая)
24 Сифаера и 16 Бленхайма, или 48 Сифаера и 10 светулки....всички самолети с наземно базира са приспособени и крилата им се събират

**De Ruyeter** · 31-05-2005, 13:08

ето го моят тежък крайцер:
Hipper, Kriegsmarine heavy cruiser laid down 1935

Displacement:
12*936 t light; 13*479 t standard; 14*493 t normal; 15*305 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
615,69 ft / 590,55 ft x 68,90 ft x 26,25 ft (normal load)
187,66 m / 180,00 m x 21,00 m x 8,00 m

Armament:
12 - 7,99" / 203 mm guns (4x3 guns), 268,96lbs / 122,00kg shells, 1935 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
16 - 5,04" / 128 mm guns (8x2 guns), 63,99lbs / 29,03kg shells, 1935 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
32 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns (16x2 guns), 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1935 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
32 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1935 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 4*309 lbs / 1*954 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
8 - 21,0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 492,13 ft / 150,00 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 65,62 ft / 20,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
32,81 ft / 10,00 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 128 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,57" / 40 mm 492,13 ft / 150,00 m 22,97 ft / 7,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,12" / 130 mm 2,76" / 70 mm 4,72" / 120 mm

- Armour deck: 2,56" / 65 mm, Conning tower: 0,79" / 20 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 91*417 shp / 68*197 Kw = 32,00 kts
Range 8*000nm at 14,00 kts (Bunkerage = 1*826 tons)

Complement:
659 - 858

Cost:
£6,371 million / $25,484 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 518 tons, 3,6 %
Armour: 3*677 tons, 25,4 %
- Belts: 1*054 tons, 7,3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 659 tons, 4,5 %
- Armament: 650 tons, 4,5 %
- Armour Deck: 1*304 tons, 9,0 %
- Conning Tower: 10 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 2*597 tons, 17,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5*844 tons, 40,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1*557 tons, 10,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 2,1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
11*520 lbs / 5*225 Kg = 45,1 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 3,4 ft / 1,0 m
Roll period: 15,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,79
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,13

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak, low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0,475
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28,17 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32,81 ft / 10,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 32,81 ft / 10,00 m (29,53 ft / 9,00 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 26,25 ft / 8,00 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0,00 ft / 0,00 m (19,69 ft / 6,00 m before break)
- Stern: 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Average freeboard: 23,38 ft / 7,13 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 123,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167,7 %
Waterplane Area: 27*553 Square feet or 2*560 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 631 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,92
- Longitudinal: 2,04
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

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