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    Prince Valerio Borghese

    Prince Valerio Borghese was the scion of one the oldest aristocratic families in Italy .
    During WW2 he was commander of submarine 'Scire' which brought the Italian frogmen to many of their missions against the British , including Alexandria , he was decorated with the Gold Medal .
    On 8th sept 43 he was in La Spezia and wept for shame when heard the declaration of armistice , never again he would shed tears in his life .
    He negotiated with the Germans and went on to form the Decima Mas which was perphaps the most efficent miltary unit in the RSI forces .
    Decima Mas saw ample service on the southern front , at the Eastern Borders of Italy , the battle for Tarnova is the most striking example , bur slowly got involved in the bloody civil war and was feared by the partisans .
    At war's end some units were at the front and others in the rear areas , but there was a plan for all units to march to Friuli and defend Italian eastern borders and population form Tito' bands violence .
    Unfortunately the chaos and confusion of the last days in April prevented this plan fom becoming operative .

    At 24 April Borghese was in Milano , at the Prefettura with Mussolini and when the Duce left Milano withou giving orders to the loyal troops he went back to the Decima baracks in Piazza Fiume , now Piazza della Repubblica and saluted his men " DECIMA ' the men answered "COMANDANTE " and he went on to say that the war was lost and they were released from their oath but were to be proud of their service with the RSI .
    Then instead of staying with his troops , this fearless soldier , the commander of a sub such as Borghese cannot know fear , did something that for me is almost unbelievable , He went to his apartment in Piazza Piemonte , changed in civilian clothes and boarder a car provided and driven by italians agents of the american secret service , he was taken to safety to the south and later had to stand trial for his role in the RSI .
    Meantime many of his men were butchered by the partisans .

    How could a men such as Borghese do this ?
    It always escaped my comprehension as the Commander of X MAS and he was more than that , he was the soul of this force , could leave his men and not share their fate .

    Of course Borghese is a complicated figure not always above reproach in his personal life and also the role that he had in the coup of 1970 which could have sunk Italy in a new bloodbath are big question marks .


    Submarine "Scire" with Frogman dock on its deck (note simlitaries to modern day US Navy Seal systems)

    --- www.comandosupremo.com ---

    #2
    Im trying to find an article on Gen.Marinat, he commanded the elite "Alpini" mountain units attached to the Italian CSIR in Russia, during the fierce (and now legendary) battles during the winter of 1942 he lost his life defending the command post, he is now quite a hero

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      #3
      I never knew much about Italian action on the Eastern Front? Could be interesting...
      albireo написа
      ...в този форум... основно е пълно с теоретици, прогнили интелигенти и просто кръчмаро-кибици...

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        #4
        Hi, Glen. It's Odzava from your war-game. :tup:
        What about the postwar Borgese operations. 4-5 years ago I've read that BB "Julio Cesare"/ "Novorosiysk" was sunked after Italian operation near Sevastopol. Did you know more about that?
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          #5
          I'll look into that, it would make sense becuase many Italians were outraged that their ships would find thier way into the hands of other navies 8)

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            #6
            "There are two hypotheses as to what caused the blast. The more theatrical explanation was that Italian frogmen were avenging the transfer of the formerly-Italian battleship to the USSR
            The more prosaic suggestion was that the explosion was caused by a ground mine that had been left behind since the Nazi occupation of Sevastopol. During the next two years divers found 19 German ground mines on the bottom of the Sevastopol Bay. Eleven of the mines had the same TNT equivalent as the blast under Novorossiisk. No real traces of sabotage were found. The possibility of sabotage was not ruled out because of the poor safeguarding of the fleet base on the night when the explosion took place and the statements of many Italian frogman that they wanted "revenge" "

            "On the night of October 29, 1955, Novorossiisk was moored in Sevastopol Bay, 300 meters (1000 feet) from shore and opposite a hospital. At 1:30am, an explosion estimated to be the equivalent of 1,200 kilograms of TNT under the bow of the ship pierced all decks from the bottom plating to the forecastle deck. In the forecastle deck there was one hole which measured 14×4 meters in size. The damage extended from the bow aft 22 meters.
            The ship sank slowly, capsizing at 4:15am, 2 hours 45 minutes after the explosion, and 18 hours after that fully submerged. The capsizing resulted in the death of 608 sailors, most of whom were staying in the ship's compartments.
            The loss of life as well as the complete destruction of the ship was directly caused by the incompetent actions of her captain, Fleet Commander Vice Admiral V. Parkhomenko. Among other underestimates of the danger to his ship, he did not know the conditions of the sea bottom, believing that the ratio between the sea depth (17 meters) and the ship's beam (28 meters) would prevent capsizing. However, the bottom was soft ooze, 15 meters deep, which offered no resistance. It was also reported that the commander displayed conceit and groundless calmness during this critical situation, and had even expressed the wish to "go have some tea."
            Because of the loss of Novorossiisk, the First Deputy Minister of Defence and the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Nikolai Gerasimovich Kuznetsov was fired from his post in November 1955, and in February 1956 he was demoted to the rank of vice admiral and sent to retirement without the right to return to active service in the Navy.

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            So it would have been a mine or Italian commandos, we may never know

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              #7
              Thanx a lot.
              I've also read about these two sudgestions, but I thought that there were more evidence about one of them. Official Soviet conclusion was that it was a Nazi mine, but they can't say anything more. So, I thought that Borgese or someone else wrote a book about this operation.
              Пишут нам много.... Погубит нас всеобщая грамотность.
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