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  1. #26
    "If elections changed anything, they would be forbidden" ~ Kurt Tucholsky

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  3. #28
    Ok vjarno che ima goljama razlika mejdu dvete, no Vse pak ima njakolko godini razlika v proizvodstvoto! Za tova vreme moje da se promenjat mnogo neshta! Da ne zabravjame che Germanija njamat vreme i vuzmojnosti sled voinata da podobrjat orujieto dokato podobni prechki ne sushtestvuvat za CCCP!
    Kolkoto do tova koeto rusnacite sa izobretili.....ami to obshto vzeto v poslednite godini na voinata i v purvite na "mirnoto vreme" sled neja te vodjat vuv dosta sferi na voennata tehnika! Vjarno e che naistina se razvihrjat po vreme na Studenata Voina i to po specialno vuv oblastite na samoleti, podvodnici, takove i t.n. no prosto imam chuvstvo che togava orujijata ot sorta na AK sa pozabraveni za novi razrabotki! Ako poglednete prosto kato sravnenie kolko modela na Su, MiG, T sa izlezli ot togava i kolko na AK shte vidite che suotnoshenieto e dosta goljamo! E moje bi zashtoto AK si e dostatuchno dobro orujie i njama nujda ot mnogo novi razrabotki, no ne mi se vjarva!
    That, which doesn't kill you makes you stronger!

  4. #29
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  5. #30
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  6. #31
    Originally posted by "C4"

    Ok mersi mnogo!!!
    Prosto i az si misleh che ima razlika i che vsichko zavisi ot boepripasite ama reshih da si vi pitam shtoto ama hich ne razbiram ot artilerii kakto sigurno veche razbrahte!!!!!
    Imam pitane otnosno foruma!
    Ima li njakade kadeto da se pishe za maaaaalko po malkite kalibri!? Imam predvid 9x19; 7.62; 5.45.....22ri.
    Ne za drugo no mislja che vse pak sled kato orujija sa proizvejdani prez Vtorata Svetovna Voina i vse oshte sa na vuorujenie, i to ne samo zashtoto sa eftini, zaslujavat malko respekt.
    Az uj se rovih tuka ama neshto ne moga da hvana diskusija na temata ( moje i az PAK da sum oklepal neshtata de i da sum ja podminal njakolko puti!!!!!! )!
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  7. #32
    M1A2 Thompson vs. Mp-38/40 vs. Sten Mark 2; M1 Garand vs. Mauser KAR98K vs. Mosin Nasgant( ). SMG- !

  8. #33
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  9. #34
    MP-40

    MP-40


    Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
    Weight: 4,7 kg loaded, 4,03 kg empty
    Lenght (stock closed/open): 630/833 mm
    Barrel lenght: mm
    Rate of fire: 500 rounds per minute
    Magazine capacity: 32 rounds
    Effective range: ca. 100 meters


    The MP-38 and MP-40, often incorrectly referred as "Schmeissers", were developed by german engineer Follmer at the Erma company and adopted by Wehrmacht (German Army) in 1938 and 1940, respectively. The MP-40 is a further modification of the MP-38. Total of some 1.2 millions of MP-38/40 were manufactured prior and during WW2. Initially, MP-38 was intended for use by paratroopers and vehicle crews, but later was widely used by german infantry.

    Both MP-38 and MP-40 were blowback operated, full auto only submachine guns. MP-38 featured steel machined receiver, while MP-40 featured stamped receiver and stamped magazine veil to make the gun cheaper. The charging handle (located at the left side of the receiver) was used as a safety, locking the bolt in forward or rearward position when placed in cut slots in the receiver. Both MP-38 and MP-40 fired from the open bolt. Both featured special rate of fire reducer, that resulted in very controllable rate of fire of some 400-500 rounds per minute. Both guns featured special detail below the barrel to use the guns from armoured wehicles. Both guns featured underfolding steel buttstock. Both MP-38 and MP-40 featured fixed and hooded front sight and flippable rear sight with settings for 100 and 200 meters.

    The main drawbacks of the MP 38/40 were the lack of the front handguards that often resulted burned hands during the sustained fire, and the lack of the effective range, when compared to its soviet counterparts (PPSch-41, PPS-43), chambered for more powerful 7.62mm TT round.


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  10. #35
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    Caliber: 7.92x33 mm (7.92mm Kurz)
    Action: Gas operated, tilting bolt
    Overall length: 940 mm
    Barrel length: 419 mm
    Weigth: 5.22 kg
    Rate of fire: 500 rounds per minute
    Magazine capacity: 30 rounds


    This weapon, known as a worlds first assault rifle, was developed in Hitlers' Germany during the World War Two. Initial development took place under the designation of MKb.42 - MachinenKarabine, 1942. The experimental MKb's were developed by two german companies, Karl Walther (MKb.42(W)) and C.G.Haenel (MKb.42(H)). Both guns were intended as a replacement for submachine guns, bolt action rifles and, partly, light machineguns for front troops. Both guns were designed to fire intermediate (between rifle and pistol) cartridge, and have effective range of 600 meters or so. The 7.92mm Kurz cartridge, developed by Polte company, propelled 8.1 g (125 grains) bullet to rougly 680 meters per second.

    After initial trials the MKb.42(H), designed by Hugo Schmeisser, was found superior of two, and further development took place under the name of MP-43 (MachinenPistole, 1943, to avoid Hitlers opposition to made anything but SMGs). Some MP-43s were issued to troops at western front, and field reports were very promising. Final version appeared under the designation of Mp-44, and then Hitler finally approved it, but the new gun received also a new designation - SturmGevehr-44, which stands for no more than "Assult Rifle" in german language. This was pure act of propaganda, but the name stuck not only to that gun, but to the whole new class of automatic weapons, designed to fire intermediate cartridges. Total number of MP-43s, MP-44s and StG.44s produced was about 500 000, and these guns proved itself as wery effective, but not withouth some flaws. After end of the war the direct development of the Stg.44 was stopped, but some remained guns were used by East Germany.

    The StG.44 is a gas operated, selective fire weapon. The receiver and trigger housing with pistol grip are made from steel stampings. Trigger housing with pistol grip is hinged to the receiver and folds town for disassembly. Gas drive utilises long piston stroke, and bolt is tipped down to lock into the receiver. Gun is fired from the closed bolt (unlike the early Mkb.42(H) which fired from the open bolt). Also, MP-43 and further versions all were hammer-fired, while MKb.42(H) was striker-fired. Charging handle is attached to the gas piston rod, ejection port has a dust cover. Recoil spring is located inside the wooden butt. Handguard were made of stamping.

    By the modern standards, the StG.44 was too heavy, it was not too comfortable to fire from prone positions, the butt attachment was not too strong and could be easily damaged in hands-to-hands combat, but it was the FIRST gun of its class, and it was more effective than SMG.
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  12. #37
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  13. #38
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  14. #39
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  16. #41
    Originally posted by "Imperial Friedrich"

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  18. #43
    Originally posted by "gollum"

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  21. #46
    Originally posted by "gollum"

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  22. #47
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    ( ) Parabellum 9X19MM , Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken. "Si vis pacem, para bellum" " ".
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  25. #50
    Originally posted by "Deimos"

    ( ) Parabellum 9X19MM , Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken. "Si vis pacem parabellum" " ".
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