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    Translation and identification of a bulgarian dokument

    Hello!
    I have a group in my collection that belongs to a german Sailor.
    It contains the
    ROYAL BULGARIAN BRONZ MERIT MEDAL, and the german and Bulgarian dokument.

    I can't read Bulgarian. Is there someone, that can tell me, what the dokument says exacly. I hope you can translate each line seperate. I'd like to understand what each word means.

    I hope I'm not asking to much.

    Why would he have gotten such a medal?

    Greetings from Holland!

    Frank
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    Last edited by German_military; 10-11-2005, 20:48. Причина: Автоматично сливане на двойно мнение

    #2
    Hi German_military

    1. WE BORIS III
    2. by the Lord's mercy and the will of the people
    3. Tzar of the bulgarians
    4. as we vouchsafe to award
    5. the corporal of the german training cruiser "Emden"
    6. Konstantine Gruber
    7. with bronze medal
    8. FOR MERIT(something like "Meritorious Service Medal" or "Merit Medal")
    9. we order, to give him the present
    10. license

    Excuse me for the mistakes, but I hope, that you will get the general meaning of this document.
    Last edited by Ханс; 10-11-2005, 21:15.
    Eighteen out of twelve apostles are buried in Spain.

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      #3
      Hello!

      Thanks for your excellent help! Funny that his name has been written in both languages.
      Something else, that I notice is that they call him a corporal, while he is a Matroseobergefreiten.

      They also call the emden a training cruiser. Was this indeed a trainings cruiser?

      Greetings,
      Frank!

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        #4
        German_military написа

        Why would he have gotten such a medal?

        Greetings from Holland!

        Frank
        The German Light crusier Emden visited Varna twice in 1936 and in 1938.
        We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are
        ---Anais Nin----

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          #5
          German_military написа
          Hello!

          They also call the emden a training cruiser. Was this indeed a trainings cruiser?

          Greetings,
          Frank!
          Yes, see:
          We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are
          ---Anais Nin----

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            #6
            Hello,
            Thanks a lot!

            You say Varna. I thought , that that name isn't mentioned at the dokument.
            I believed it was dated below with
            Sophia, 18 november 1839 Am I correct?


            The set included a seekarte of the Emden. He indeed visited Bulgaria in 1938



            The sailor also got this medal (see photo)
            What do you think of that. It looks like a medal that's NOT made by himself.
            I believe its cruiser Emden, you see there.

            The ribbon looks like the one of the Royal bulgarian merit medal. Does anyone have a theory about the medal?

            Greetings,
            Frank!

            another
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            Last edited by German_military; 10-11-2005, 21:39. Причина: Автоматично сливане на двойно мнение

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              #7
              Varna is the port in Bulgaria which Emden visited in 1938. You can see the name under number 13 on the map.
              Sofia is the place where this license was issued.
              I don't konw what kind of madel is that with ship on it. But the other is "Royal bulgarian merit medal", actually the face on it is that of Boris himself, and the text is "Boris III tzar of the bulgarians".
              Eighteen out of twelve apostles are buried in Spain.

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                #8
                Hello!

                It's perhaps a stupid question, but I only see at number 13 "Rhodos"?



                Do you agree, that the ribbon above the mysterious medal is that of the Bulgarian merit medal? That might mean, that that medal is also bulgarian.

                Do you mean, that they used a wrong dokument for the medal, or...

                Greetings,
                Frank

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                  #9
                  Sorry, my mistake. Not 13, but 11 Warna.
                  About the ribbon, do you mean that with the crown and eagle? Probably it is with the Merit Medal, but I am not sure. we have some experts here, probably they will tell you some details.
                  Eighteen out of twelve apostles are buried in Spain.

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                    #10
                    Hello!

                    You're right! I now see the name Warna.
                    Thanks a lot! :tup:

                    I hope we have some experts, that can tell more about the medals!


                    Greetings,
                    Frank!

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                      #11
                      Hi,
                      see what I found(bottom right). I think that this is the same medal(merit), but silver.
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                      Eighteen out of twelve apostles are buried in Spain.

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                        #12
                        Hello,
                        you're right! This one is only made on a Bar, in the german style.

                        Here's by the way his dogtag.

                        Am I correct to say, that the L stands for Linienschiff?


                        Greetings,
                        Frank!
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                          #13
                          Here you can see the same medal, but with the image of Prince Ferdinand I instead of tzar Boris III.
                          Eighteen out of twelve apostles are buried in Spain.

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